Tim Urban || Climbing the Thinking Ladder

March 31, 2022

Today we welcome Tim Urban. He is the writer and illustrator of the blog Wait But Why, which he co-founded with Andrew Finn in 2013. With wry stick-figure illustrations and occasionally epic prose, Wait But Why has garnered millions of unique page views, thousands of patrons and famous fans like Elon Musk. His long-form blog covers a range of subjects including artificial intelligence, outer space, and procrastination. Tim earned his A.B. from Harvard University, graduating cum laude with a major in Government. 

In this episode, I talk to Tim Urban about the complex relationship between identity and critical thinking. Tim cautions against blind loyalty to specific ideologies for it can lead to an echo chamber of tribal minds. Instead of dogmatic maxims, he suggests we uphold basic core principles that guide our thoughts and behavior. In this way, Tim believes we engage in high rung thinking all the while cultivating “idea labs” within our culture. We also touch on the topics of dating, education, politics, writing, morality, and tech.  

Website: waitbutwhy.com

Twitter: @waitbutwhy


  • Intellectual ADHD
  • Detached truth seeking 
  • Pitfalls of low rung thinking
  • Tim’s upbringing and education
  • Dating is kind of like Grand Theft Auto
  • “Your ego is a backpack”
  • The world needs your spaghetti brain
  • Idea labs and echo chambers
  • The spectrum of opposing views
  • Repressing science for ideology
  • Life, death, and cryonics
  • Learning in analogies and metaphors
  • Evaluating high quality ideas
  • Choosing what to read
  • Tim’s life altering idea
  • Mars, capitalism, neurolinks 
  • Lightning round
  • But why wait?

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