Simon Baron-Cohen
2021-02-18
Neurodiversity

Simon Baron-Cohen || How Autism Drives Human Invention

Today it’s great to chat with Simon Baron-Cohen. Simon is professor of psychology and psychiatry and director of the Autism Research Centre at Cambridge University. He is the author of six hundred scientific articles and four books, including The Science of Evil and The Essential Difference.

[2:47] Simon’s evolution of thought on autism

[5:19] How the social realm of autism has evolved

[8:12] The difference between autism and psychopathy

[10:26] The role of affective vs cognitive empathy

[12:37] How to navigate autism amidst cancel culture

[14:18] Having autistic traits vs being on the autism spectrum

[17:52] How autism drives human invention

[22:11] The “systemizing mechanism” of the brain

[24:03] The role of “if-and-then patterns” in autistic individuals

[26:41] Simon’s thoughts on language acquisition

[27:48] “The empathy circuit”

[37:28] The role of creativity in autism

[41:19] The Brain Types Study

[42:43] The biological basis of creativity and autism

[45:24] Why monkeys don’t skateboard

[48:12] Why language isn’t a necessary precursor to invention

[55:12] How Scott measured implicit learning and pattern-seeking

[59:28] Why Simon’s work has sparked some pushback

[1:01:04] How to support autistic people

[1:05:45] How we can nurture the inventors of the future

[1:07:18] Sex differences in autism

  • [2:47] Simon’s evolution of thought on autism
  • [5:19] How the social realm of autism has evolved
  • [8:12] The difference between autism and psychopathy
  • [10:26] The role of affective vs cognitive empathy
  • [12:37] How to navigate autism amidst cancel culture
  • [14:18] Having autistic traits vs being on the autism spectrum
  • [17:52] How autism drives human invention
  • [22:11] The “systemizing mechanism” of the brain
  • [24:03] The role of “if-and-then patterns” in autistic individuals
  • [26:41] Simon’s thoughts on language acquisition
  • [27:48] “The empathy circuit”
  • [37:28] The role of creativity in autism
  • [41:19] The Brain Types Study
  • [42:43] The biological basis of creativity and autism
  • [45:24] Why monkeys don’t skateboard
  • [48:12] Why language isn’t a necessary precursor to invention
  • [55:12] How Scott measured implicit learning and pattern-seeking
  • [59:28] Why Simon’s work has sparked some pushback
  • [1:01:04] How to support autistic people
  • [1:05:45] How we can nurture the inventors of the future
  • [1:07:18] Sex differences in autism

About the guest

Simon Baron-Cohen

Podcast Guest

Sir Simon Philip Baron-Cohen is a British clinical psychologist and professor of developmental psychopathology at the University of Cambridge, where he directs the Autism Research Centre. He is known for his mindblindness theory of autism and the empathising-systemising theory, and is the author of popular science books including The Essential Difference, Zero Degrees of Empathy, and The Pattern Seekers.

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