Heather McGhee || What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together

August 26, 2021

Today we have Heather McGhee on the podcast. Heather is an expert in economic and social policy. The former president of the inequality-focused thinktank “Demos” McGhee has drafted a legislation testified before Congress and contributed regularly in news shows including MBC’s “Meet the Press”. She now chairs the board of “Color of Change”, the nation’s largest online racial justice organization. McGhee holds a BA in American Studies from Yale University and a JD from the University of California Berkeley School of Law. Her latest book is called “The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together”.


  • Disconnect between policy makers and working families
  • Heather’s hope for America
  • Zero-sum racial competition in White and Black People
  • The true definition of “White Privilege”
  • Racist policy-making in determining economic opportunity
  • How the Subprime Mortgage Crisis was fueled by racism
  • Heather meeting a white supremacist-turned-anti-racist advocate
  • “The Big Lie” in election results
  • Trump’s “Populist” Agenda
  • Black and White people on environmentalism
  • Systems in America as the biggest barrier in racial education

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